Minutes and Discourses, 6–8 April 1844, as Reported by William Clayton

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He is not afraid of such things. he has none of those fears, forebodings surmisings &c he put his trust in God and his directions, instructions and whatever he does is only for my salvation. He referred to a man running his team before he got his way prepared he would break his wagon— What he had already said was only to prepare his way.
5 of the Pottawattomie tribe of Indians appeared they were invited to the stand by the president.
continued. He was going to tell something that surprised him. At the beginning of the Church had the privilege of hearing seeing and knowing things which he has not yet told. After the church began to grow it was favored with monstrous wise men— they had so much wisdom that they could dispute what God said and what his servants said. They were opposed to virtue— They would say that had had revelations and visions and was as certain that God had given it as I was that the devil had. He referred to the children of Israel & leeks & onions &c. and. to those who are always yelling about what the church believes and opposing every good thing— Want devils to gratify themselves and if howling yelling yelping will do you any good do it till you are all damned. If calling us devils &c will do you any good let us have the whole of it and you can then go on your way to hell without a grunt. We have these things ever since the church existed they have come up with us. they have had so much wisdom they knew all about the kingdom before God revealed it. We gather of all kinds— if we get all nations we get all wisdom, all cunning and every thing else.
The sectarians cant be as wise as we are for they have only got the plans of man for salvation but we have got mens plans, The devils plans & the best of all we have Gods plan He did not know but we had some of these strange wise men present this a. m. He had merely given this as a part of the history of this church [p. 4]
He is not afraid of such things. he has none of those fears, forebodings surmisings &c he put his trust in God and his directions, instructions and whatever he does is only for my salvation. He referred to a man running his team before he got his way prepared he would break his wagon— What he had already said was only to prepare his way.
5 of the Pottawattomie tribe of Indians appeared they were invited to the stand by the president.
continued. He was going to tell something that surprised him. At the beginning of the Church had the privilege of hearing seeing and knowing things which he has not yet told. After the church began to grow it was favored with monstrous wise men— they had so much wisdom that they could dispute what God said and what his servants said. They were opposed to virtue— They would say that had had revelations and visions and was as certain that God had given it as I was that the devil had. He referred to the children of Israel & leeks & onions &c. and. to those who are always yelling about what the church believes and opposing every good thing— Want devils to gratify themselves and if howling yelling yelping will do you any good do it till you are all damned. If calling us devils &c will do you any good let us have the whole of it and you can then go on your way to hell without a grunt. We have these things ever since the church existed they have come up with us. they have had so much wisdom they knew all about the kingdom before God revealed it. We gather of all kinds— if we get all nations we get all wisdom, all cunning and every thing else.
The sectarians cant be as wise as we are for they have only got the plans of man for salvation but we have got mens plans, The devils plans & the best of all we have Gods plan He did not know but we had some of these strange wise men present this a. m. He had merely given this as a part of the history of this church [p. 4]
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