Letter from Smith Tuttle, circa 15 September 1841

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Sept. 1841
Rev. J. Smith
Dr Sir. My friend recd. a letter from you a few days since dated 25 Aug. in relation to the property he sold you & in which you probably know that myself & had some interest & which must be my apology for writing you— You Knowing as I do ’ feelings toward you I was surprized to hear you accuse him of wishing to crush you in the germ— You have not a firmer friend in this part of the Country than — I will state what has taken place in relation to the interest due us, I will endeavor to do it in such a manner as to be understood although not briliant in style— As you state your brother & called on us about the last of March in relation to the amt due us & proposed giving us lands in & for a part or the whole of our claim as they could arrange for them The proposition to me was sudden (as I stated to them) and I did not like to agree to it without consulting (now a resident of your ) on the subject, but agreed to take lands for two yrs interest as proposed that would yield us six per cent Interest— On leaving us it was agreed that should carry out the arrangement as your brother was then going home (to )— said he wished to go to on business (I think the Indian Agency) & on his return to in a few days he would write us & we were to meet him there & carry out the arrangement— We waited some time but hearing nothing from wrote him both at & but got no reply & we remained in this state of suspense untill (I think) 26th July, about 4 months when we received a letter from from stating that he was then on his way to & that your brother at New Egypt N. J. would transfer a house & some land to him to apply on his individual note for $2500 which was signed by & , but did not even allude to the arrangement we had made in the Spring in relation to our interest, although I think he stated that he had recd one of s letters.— under these circumstances we felt disappointed & neglected & could not account for the course pursued & under the impressions caused by this disappointment wrote you— You will see therefore that we have never had an opportunity to receive any lands. & I have no doubt that if the first arrangement had [p. [1]] been carried out on the part of it would have led to an arrangement for the whole debt which we should have been willing to have entered into on terms mutually favorable— I should here state however that has always assured me that the debt you owe us was of the very best character, & he has repeatedly stated to me that he would not exchange it for the same amt of bank stock— you ought not to complain that we thought so favorably of the debt against you as to prefer it to anything else especially when the rate of interest is so low— I have no doubt that if had met us agreeable to our arrangement with him & your Brother that every thing would have gone on harmoniously & to the entire satisfaction of all parties, & there would have been no occasion for harsh remarks by either party— I have no doubt can give a satisfactory reason why he did <​not​> meet us as agreed, but I think he was in error in not writing us earlier & letting us know what he could do, so that we could have gone about our business, which we were kept from doing a length of time by waiting his instructions to meet him in — I learn (& have no doubt of it) that he was afflicted with loss of sight to a great extent & which is surely a serious affliction— Still I think he should have written us earlier— recd a letter from you brother in August saying that he was authorized to transfer to him a house & land to apply on the notes signed by Messrs Ivins I suppose. & that he should remain there (New Egypt) untill the 15th Sept— accordingly & a week since went to N. Egypt and on arriving there found that your brother had left for some days since & of course nothing could be done— We were informed & have no doubt of the fact that your left thus early & hastily in consequence of the melancholy news of the death of his at & which of course was a sufficient reason for his leaving, but he ought to have written us & saved us the Journey to meet him but I am willing to be reasonably charitable & admit that his afflictions might have caused him to forget it— You will see that we have uniformly been disappointed & the cause of disappointment in the first named case with has not been fully explained, although as you say on your having an interview with him I hope & trust you will be able to arrange satisfactorily for both parties— In relation to verbal agreement to delay the payment of the interest five years I of course cannot say which of you is right, but I am sure that understood it was only to be delayed two years at the request I [p. [2]] think of , as he so stated to me on his return, & we forwarded the notes to our friend D. G. Whitney Esq at with instructions to call on you but if you could not conveniently pay, by no means to press the payment, & the first intimation I had of the delay you claim was from him— I have known too long to suppose that he would knowingly misrepresent the case, neither do I suppose that you would do it, but you could not I think have understood each other & I had supposed that after his interview with you at the time he took the note signed by the Messrs Ivins. I supposed you did <​not​> claim any more than the two years indulgence for the interest— I did not understand your brother to claim it— I repeat so far from wishing to crush you, you have not a stronger advocate in the Eastern states & hundreds of times in steam boats & other <​public​> places have I heard him bear testimony to the correct conduct of your people & that in no city had he ever seen so quiet a population at the same time so industrious & where a stranger would be treated with more respect— He has spread your persecutions in before the public in the most glowing colors & has often declared in presence of the members of the Presbyterian Church here (a very respectable Church) that he did not believe their Church contained any more sincere Christians than the Church at — I have uniformly read your paper (the times & seasons) in my Counting room to large numbers & always keep them on my desk in my Counting room where they a[re] read daily by many persons & you may rest assured that your denomination of Christians are not viewed with that contempt that some eastern editors would make you believe so far as my acquaintance extends & public opinions is setting in your favor & will continue to do so as long as your conduct as a body is correct— They will look more to your moral conduct than to your religion— Could you have witnessed s regrets on learning from your letter the deaths that had taken place I think you would have supposed he had some feeling for some of you. For a length of time, after noticing this, he apparently lost sight of the business contents of the letter— I think one reason why you cannot so readily sell the lands purchased of us, is, because the title is not complete untill you can get a deed from us, & which in my opinion is quite desirable— left his note against the Messrs Ivins, with a friend to negotiate in , as Mr was absent on a visit to & was also disappointed in finding him absent although it was no fault of as he did not know that would call on him— He <​​> is absent from home much of his time on business, & it was with much difficulty he could get time to go to — I think we mentioned to your & [p. [3]] when here that it was our intention to present you with a bell for your when you got through with our payments & which we then thought would be at an early day & still think it would be mutually benefical if you can accomplish it— You may rest assured that we should feel a pleasure in doing it aside from pecuniary considerations— I trust from what I have stated and I refer you to your & who I trust is with you before this for the correctness of my statements so far as they have knowledge, that you will admit that without any explanation from you & your friends, we had some cause to feel dissatisfied, & that we do not wish to crush you in your infancy As before stated I believe events have transpired over which you had no control but which were as you see unknown to us, which has led at least in part to the misunderstanding so far, and I hope in future nothing of the kind will occur—
I deeply sympathize with you in the loss your family & Church have sustained & I sincerely hope you may not soon again be thus afflicted— I notice with regret in the times & seasons that you have had some difficulty in obtaining your types for your new Paper but hope it is removed befor this— I also fear the loss of Messrs & will prevent the publication at an early day— I wish a copy of it & will remit the pay on receiving the first number— I wish you to write me on rect of this in relation to the prospects of arranging our claim
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<​and in relation to your prospects generally— I ought perhaps to mention that after the arrangement with your & last spring I was so confident of carrying their proposition in to effect that I relinquished my store when I was doing a good business with a view of being able to attend to the property which we might receive from them— This of course does not concern you but it adds to my disappointment— I hope & trust that in our future arrangements we shall neither of us have cause to complain— With my best wishes for your future welfare I remain your obedt servt​>
<​ CT. | SEP | 15​>
Rev. Joseph Smith
Hancock Cy.
Illinois [p. [4]]